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voivoda
PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:18 am    Post subject:

you can ad your comments here ...http://image.pinout.net/pinout_vga_files/index.php
hitechtalent
PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Content Engine VGA

Are you still looking for the 16-pin IDC to 15-pin VGA mapping?
janders
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject:

vtech wrote:
Ok, thought it had the connector

I would not call it a lost cause yet. 69000 series was actually rather advanced in it's time and reading it's application notes should give you ideas---made by Asiliant technologies.

http://www.asiliant.com/69000.htm


vtech,

Once again, very nice find. You seem to know how to find all the good stuff Wink. I'll dig through all of that and see what I can come up with, looks like it may take me some time though. Thanks again!
vtech
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject:

Ok, thought it had the connector

I would not call it a lost cause yet. 69000 series was actually rather advanced in it's time and reading it's application notes should give you ideas---made by Asiliant technologies.

http://www.asiliant.com/69000.htm
janders
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject:

vtech wrote:

Yes, ---IF you already have a standard RCA composite video out on back of that unit(as it's shown on the pix?), you should be able to use a standard Tv for the minimum resolution.


Unfortunately, my CE does not have this adapter (I believe it is only included on the AV models, which I do not have). All I have is the 16-pin block on the motherboard.

Would researching the video controller on the motherboard help me at all in regard to determining for sure what this is? I did a basic google search, but didn't come up with anything solid. If it helps at all, the chip has the following info on it:

Code:

CHIPS
B69000
W69000B4  0216-b
KOREA
K5416


Is this just a lost cause?
vtech
PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:45 am    Post subject:

janders wrote:
vtech wrote:
Sounds like you need to experiment.... looking at fig 1.1, this unit has a standard composite output. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/webscale/content/ce500hig/11199ov1.htm#xtocid75143

Depending on the monitor, there are several variables involved in going from standard composite to RGB ..some of which is more trouble than worthed--especially on older equipment... here's a good bit of general info
http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/index.html

Good luck


Vtech,

Thank you for your assistance. Good find from the Cisco site, I never even noticed that due to the fact that I don't have the AV model. I'm sure the motherboard is probably identical however. I didn't even consider that this may not be a VGA header, but instead be composite video. Rather than try to output this to a monitor, would it be easier to just dump it onto a television? If so, what else do I need to track down in order to make it work since I don't have the handy front panel composite connector for my content engine? Thanks!


Yes, ---IF you already have a standard RCA composite video out on back of that unit(as it's shown on the pix?), you should be able to use a standard Tv for the minimum resolution.
janders
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject:

torbjorn wrote:
So, you have identified the RGB signals, that is a good beginning.
Then, check out which pins in the header that are grounded, that is probably several ones as it is common practice to have a separate ground pin for each of the RGB signals. It is easy to do by resistance measurements.

To figure out which pins are used for H and V sync, it is best to check with an oscilloscope. At the same time, check out the signal levels. In some cases, it might be TTL or CMOS levels, in other cases, it might be 0,3 or 1,0 V p-p.

Other pins in the header might be "monitor ID pins" according to old IBM VGA standard, or an I2C bus according to modern VESA standard (DDC).


torbjorn,

Thank you! That is a very helpful guide to get started with. I don't have an oscilloscope available, unfortunately, so I'll see if I can match based off of the signal levels you mentioned.
janders
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject:

vtech wrote:
Sounds like you need to experiment.... looking at fig 1.1, this unit has a standard composite output. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/webscale/content/ce500hig/11199ov1.htm#xtocid75143

Depending on the monitor, there are several variables involved in going from standard composite to RGB ..some of which is more trouble than worthed--especially on older equipment... here's a good bit of general info
http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/index.html

Good luck


Vtech,

Thank you for your assistance. Good find from the Cisco site, I never even noticed that due to the fact that I don't have the AV model. I'm sure the motherboard is probably identical however. I didn't even consider that this may not be a VGA header, but instead be composite video. Rather than try to output this to a monitor, would it be easier to just dump it onto a television? If so, what else do I need to track down in order to make it work since I don't have the handy front panel composite connector for my content engine? Thanks!
torbjorn
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject:

So, you have identified the RGB signals, that is a good beginning.
Then, check out which pins in the header that are grounded, that is probably several ones as it is common practice to have a separate ground pin for each of the RGB signals. It is easy to do by resistance measurements.

To figure out which pins are used for H and V sync, it is best to check with an oscilloscope. At the same time, check out the signal levels. In some cases, it might be TTL or CMOS levels, in other cases, it might be 0,3 or 1,0 V p-p.

Other pins in the header might be "monitor ID pins" according to old IBM VGA standard, or an I2C bus according to modern VESA standard (DDC).
vtech
PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject:

Sounds like you need to experiment.... looking at fig 1.1, this unit has a standard composite output. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/webscale/content/ce500hig/11199ov1.htm#xtocid75143

Depending on the monitor, there are several variables involved in going from standard composite to RGB ..some of which is more trouble than worthed--especially on older equipment... here's a good bit of general info
http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/faq/vga2rgb/index.html

Good luck

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